Blupeados de la secta Hare Krishna

Gays, lesbianas y bisexuales


Demonios


Segun los Hare Krishna la homosexualidad es demoníaca, y lo demuestran blandiendo el Tercer Canto del Srîmad-Bhâgavatam (la Biblia de los hindúes) acerca del nacimiento de los hijos del Creador, Brahmâ:
"Parece ser que el apetito homosexual de un hombre por otro se crea en este episodio de la creación de los demonios por parte de Brahmâ. En otras palabras, el apetito homosexual de un hombre por otro es demoníaco y no es propio de ningún hombre cuerdo en el curso ordinario de la vida" (Bhâg. 3.20.26, significado). Prabhupada hablaba claro, eh?



Prabhupâda homófobo

Srila Prabhupada decía que la homosexualidad es una orientación menos que animal, que ni siquiera los animales son homosexuales. Claro que si demostraramos que en todas las especies animales siempre hay un porcentaje de individuos homosexuales, nos diría que la homosexualidad es entonces una actividad animal, no humana. Una cita extraída de un diálogo en 1971, en Londres (aunque en realidad Prabhupada no dialogaba sino que pontificaba): "Si realmente hubiera religión en la sociedad humana no deberían haber tantos problemas. Los problemas están en la sociedad animal. ¿Por qué hay problemas en la sociedad humana? Porque han abandonado los principios verdaderos. Son simplemente animales. En la sociedad animal no hay problemas. Hay problemas, pero no tan agudos. [...] Estos sinvergüenzas tienen que comprender que han creado los problemas debido a su civilización animal, o menos que animal. No hay límite para la complacencia de los sentidos. La complacencia de los sentidos, el homosexo... ellos lo alientan. ¡Vean! ¡Vean! Por lo menos en la sociedad animal no hay homosexo. Ellos [los seres humanos incivilizados] han creado el homosexo, y los sacerdotes, los líderes religiosos, lo están permitiendo. ¿Saben eso?" (A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, 25 de agosto de 1971, conversación en su habitación, Londres, Inglaterra.)

BLUPEADOS:
Se dice que Srîla Prabhupâda era tri-kala-jñâ ('que conoce los tres tiempos: el pasado, el presente y el futuro'). Bueno, parece que este tri-kala-jñâ no sabía mucho de animales, porque dependía de lo que estudió de los libros ingleses escritos bajo el victorianismo británico. Recién a finales del siglo XX los investigadores se quitaron el velo y se animaron a escribir libros sobre la homosexualidad animal (antes no podían porque al escribir acerca de este tema podían ser tildados de homosexuales). En todas las especies animales hay homosexualidad esporádica o permanente. El porcentaje de animales permanentemente homosexuales es muchísimo más alto que el porcentaje conocido de homosexuales humanos.
Hay una teoría interesante: los invasores ingleses de la época victoriana decían que los indios (hindúes, musulmanes, etc.) eran como animales ("copulan sin ningún escrúpulo", etc.), o sea que hace dos siglos los indios eran más libres sexualmente que sus pares británicos. Entonces los hindúes, para aparecer como más "civilizados" ante los ingleses, empezaron a deformar su religión, a occidentalizarla, a quitarle importancia al sexo ritual, etc. En este trabajo de desnaturalización del hinduismo Vivekananda & Cía. hicieron su parte.



Prabhupâda ¿gay reprimido?

DEVOTO HOMOSEXUAL:
Prabhupada era masajeado todas las noches por Hari Sauri y otros devotos. Yo no critico a Prabhupada por divertirse con sus efebos estadounidenses. Eso es normal y sano. Lo anormal y enfermo es que él nos metiera tantas malas ideas acerca de las "bondades" del celibato. ¡Ideas que probablemente él mismo no seguía! Con eso ¿qué obtenía? Fama. Es lo mismo que buscaron todos los seguidores de ese maestro (ya fueran los gurus gays [homosexuales] o los straight [heterosexuales]).

BLUPEADOS:
Totalmente de acuerdo. Pero pensamos que si era homosexual hace quedar mal a todo el colectivo ¿no? Bueno, en realidad ya hay unos cuantos malos ejemplos de gays malvados, como Sir Baden Powell (1857-1941, el pedófilo [abusador de menores] que fundó los Boy Scouts y fue genocida de indios matabeles en África), Edgar Hoover (1895-1972, el neo-nazi creador del FBI) o monseñor Marcinkus (prelado mafioso del Vaticano). Eso lo único que demuestra es que ser homosexual no es garantía absoluta para ir al cielo (y viceversa).


Caitanya ¿gay reprimido?

EX-DEVOTO:
¿En alguna parte se habla acerca de que el Señor Chaitanya era homosexual?

BLUPEADOS:
Nunca hemos leído eso en ninguna parte. Sí podemos afirmar que la iconografía de Chaitanya Mahâprabhu es homoerótica (posee detalles y símbolos de erotismo homosexual). Pero de todos modos sería difícil determinar su homosexualidad, debido a que este tema recién ahora en el siglo XXI está empezando a dejar de ser tabú (¿quizá internet está ayudando?) y generalmente las personas trataban de ocultarlo. Si entendés inglés y querés visitar un sitio cristiano interesantísimo que habla de todos los santos probablemente gays, de la proliferación durante la Edad Media de cuadros homoeróticos mostrando a Jesús semidesnudo en la cruz, del efebo San Sebastián atravesado por flechas, la misma noción del sufrimiento transformado en santidad, etc. hacé clic aquí.



El lugar de los gays y las lesbianas en ISKCON

GAYATRI DEVI DASI (SEUDÓNIMO):
¿Hay algún lugar legítimo para los devotos gay y lesbianas dentro de la asociación ISKCON?

BLUPEADOS:
No. La doctrina ya de por sí es sexófoba, qué decir de homófoba o lesbófoba. Tienen toda una seudofilosofía que explica cómo para ir al mundo espiritual hay que reemplazar los placeres de la materia por los espirituales (algo que todos los que la practicamos un largo tiempo sabemos que no funciona).



Homofobia devocional

DEVOTO EN ESPAÑA:
Dentro del movimiento hay muchísima resistencia por parte de los devotos que no son bisexuales, gays o lesbianas, o que no aceptan serlo.

BLUPEADOS:
Es verdad, pero ¿qué hace una persona que se da cuenta de que tiene esa inclinación, esa tendencia? Los católicos dicen que el homosexual debe volverse célibe obligatoriamente. No se dan cuenta de que eso contradice su propia doctrina respecto de que el celibato es un don de Dios que no todos reciben y que depende de la misericordia de Él. Si una persona se está "quemando" por el deseo se debe casar. Mi propuesta es que debe vivir su inclinación, buscar una persona a quien amar y que lo ame tal como es. No casarse con una persona del sexo opuesto sólo porque los libros de los hindúes o de los judíos así lo dicen.
¿Reacciones materiales? ¿Tú crees en esas cosas? Bueno, si uno cree en la ley del karma, entonces diremos que si una persona aconseja y convence a otra persona a que niegue su sexualidad y sea célibe, en su próxima vida recibirá esa paga. : )

Nota bene: ojo, eso fue un chiste, no creemos en la "ley" del karma. Sería genial que existiera, uno estaría más contento de saber que el universo sí es justo y que nada existe por casualidad. Pero el deseo de que algo exista no lo vuelve real. Es MUY probable que la ley del karma no exista.


¿Para qué era el sexo?

KAVACA@HOTMAIL.COM:
Seré franco con ustedes. El sexo en el mundo material está hecho para procrear. La búsqueda de placer físico es un impedimento para el progreso espiritual. No importa cómo se realice el sexo: si no está hecho para tener hijos y educarlos en la conciencia de Krishna, destruirá la capacidad de comprender a Krishna. Alguien que ha adquirido la forma humana de vida debe comprender cuán importante es esa oportunidad para la autorrealización. Por deficnición, ser homosexual significa disfrutar del placer sexual sin ninguna posibilidad de tener hijos. Al hacerlo así, uno incurre en pecado. Mi comprensión es que para un vaisnava, la energía y la actividad sexual están estrictamente destinadas a la procreación. El sexo se permite una vez por mes, durante el momento más adecuado para la concepción. El sexo fuera de este permiso es causa de mayor enredo en la materia. Los individuos que son gays o lesbianas no deben realizar sexo debido a que su actividad sexual no dará como resultado una concepción. Una pareja de casados que se dedican a la actividad sexual en otro momento que no producirá una concepción son tan culpables a una reacción material como una pareja gay dedicada al sexo. Por lo tanto cualquiera puede practicar la conciencia de Krishna si y sólo si el sexo es utilizado únicamente para la procreación y no la recreación. De otra manera esto requeriría una buena capa de hipocresía por parte de los grihasthas. La admisión de una conducta gay o lesbiana en un movimiento espiritual como ISKCON iría contra los principios básicos de la autorrealización y es por lo tanto inaceptable.

BLUPEADOS:
Su escrito coincide con la opinión de Prabhupâda. Es una creencia que se basa en escritos de mentalidad medieval. ¿Qué prueba hay de que esos libros son la verdad? Que uno lleve muchos años firmemente convencido de que algo es verdad no hace que sea verdad. Se necesita alguna prueba.


¿Matrimonio gay = prostitución?

A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, 27 de febrero de 1972. Charla con Bob Cohen, voluntario de los Peace Corps, en Mayapur, India. Esta charla luego se convirtió en el libro Preguntas perfectas, respuestas grabadas.)

Syamasundara: Cristianos... ¿Atalaya [la revista de los Testigos de Jehová]?
Prabhupada: Atalaya. Criticaban que un sacerdote había permitido el casamiento entre dos hombres, el homosexo. Así que esas cosas están sucediendo. Lo toman simplemente por prostitución, eso es todo. Así que por lo tanto la gente piensa: "Qué necesidad hay de mantener una prostitución regular gastando tanto dinero? Mejor no tenerla"
Syamasundara: ¿Usted usaba ese ejemplo de la vaca y el mercado?
Prabhupada: Sí. Si ya hay leche en el mercado, ¿qué sentido tiene mantener una vaca? [ríe] Es una condición muy abominable. Yo lo he visto en los países occidentales. Aquí también, en la India, gradualmente está empezando a ser así. [Habla con alguien en bengalí] [Corte.] Este movimiento está hecho para hacer vida humana, alcanzar la meta real.






Lo siguiente es un artículo en inglés de un discípulo de Srîla Prabhupâda acerca de la existencia de la homosexualidad en la cultura védica.

Tritiya-prakriti: People of the Third Sex
by Amara Das Wilhelm


Introduction

Let me first offer my respectful obeisances unto my beloved gurudeva A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Mindful of his desire to see all classes of human society included within the Vedic system of spiritual upliftment, I humbly attempt to write this paper. It is also my desire to help steer readers away from the pitfalls of discrimination and hate based upon bodily distinctions, so often the trap of mundane religionists.


In modern times, there has been much controversy concerning the position and rights of gay and other transgender groups within society. Should they be feared and eliminated as a harmful, corruptive force within our midst? Should they be ignored and hidden away, being denied the basic rights and privileges that other citizens enjoy? Or should they be welcomed as simply another color within the rainbow of human variety? The answer to this question can be found in the ancient Vedic literatures of India, which have thoroughly analyzed and recorded all aspects of human behavior and knowledge since time immemorial.

After the Vedas were issued forth from Brahma at the beginning of creation, Manu set aside the verses concerning civic virtues and ethics, thus compiling the Dharma Shastra. Similarly, Brhaspati set aside the verses concerning politics, economy and prosperity to compile the Artha Shastra. Nandi, the companion of Lord Siva, set aside the verses concerning sense pleasure and sexuality, thus compiling the Kama Shastra. The great sage Vyasadeva put this Kama Shastra into writing approximately five thousand years ago along with all other Vedic literatures. It was then subsequently divided into many parts and almost lost until recompiled by the brahmana sage Vatsyayana during the Gupta period or about 300 A.D. The result was the famed Kama-sutra or "codes of sensual pleasure". Although commonly presented to westerners in the format of an exotic sex manual, the actual unabridged Kama-sutra gives us a rare glimpse into the sexual understandings of ancient Vedic India.


Three Categories of Gender

Throughout Vedic literature, the sex or gender of the human being is clearly divided into three separate categories according to prakriti or nature. These are: pums-prakriti or male nature, stri-prakriti or female nature, and tritiya-prakriti or the third nature. This third sex is analyzed in the Kama-sutra and broken down into several categories of people that are still visible today and generally referred to as gay males and lesbians. They are typically characterized by a transgender behavior that can often be recognized within childhood, and are identified by an inherent homosexual orientation that manifests at puberty.

I find the word "transgender" best suits the Vedic descriptions of this third sex. Keep in mind that terms such as "transgender", "gay" and even "homosexual" have all been recently coined out of necessity, coming from a culture which has been extremely reluctant to acknowledge any gender other than male or female. Transgender implies a mixing or combination of the male and female sexes to the point in which they can no longer be categorized as male or female in the traditional sense of the word. The example of mixing white and black paint can be used, wherein the resulting color gray, in all its many shades, can no longer be considered either white or black, although it is simply a combination of both. This tritiya-prakriti, or transgender sex, is mentioned throughout the Vedic literature in different ways due to its variety of manifestations.


Transgender Citizens

Vedic society was all encompassing and each individual was seen as an integral part of the greater whole. Thus all classes of men were accommodated according to their nature. Transgender citizens were neither persecuted nor denied basic rights. They were allowed to keep their own societies or town quarters, live together within marriage parigraha, and engage in all means of livelihood. Gay men could either blend into society as ordinary males or they could dress and behave as females, living as transvestites. They are especially mentioned as being expert in dancing, singing and acting, as barbers or hairstylists, masseurs, and house servants. They were often used within the female sections of royal palaces, and also engaged in various types of prostitution. Transvestites were invited to attend all birth, marriage and religious ceremonies as their presence was a symbol of good luck and considered to be auspicious. This tradition still continues in India even today. Lesbians were known as svairini or independent women, and were permitted to earn their own livelihood. They were not expected to accept a husband. Citizens of the third gender represented only a very small portion of the overall population, which most estimates place at approximately five percent. They were not perceived to be a threat in any way and were generally considered to be aloof from the ordinary attachments of procreation and family life. In this way, transgender citizens were awarded their own particular status and welcomed as a part of civilized Vedic society.


A Matter of Semantics

There is a strange being described within early British translations of Vedic literature. These beings are comic, mythical creatures that appear to have lost their relevance in modern times. They are described as neither man nor woman, or sometimes as both man and woman. They are compared to the gandharvas or fairies, and they are believed to be asexual or without sex desire. Even Arjuna, the eternal companion of Lord Krsna and the hero of the Mahabharata, became one of these beings while hiding during his last year of exile, according to the Lords plan. There, dressed as a woman, he wore his hair in braids, behaved in a feminine manner, and taught dancing and singing to young girls with no attraction for them.

Welcome to the world of the so-called "Vedic eunuch", a term so archaic and disingenuous that it provides a good lesson both in semantics and social denial. First of all, there is no recorded evidence of any system of male castration either in ancient or contemporary India. The English word "eunuch", or castrated male, is Greek in origin and was used to refer to homosexuals during the Middle Ages. When the term "homosexual" was coined with the advent of modern psychiatry in the late nineteenth century, British writers continued to cling to the word eunuch, which was considered more polite by Victorian standards. Thus they used the word to describe transgender people all over the world in regions ranging from Greece, Persia, India, China, Polynesia, etc. During the nineteenth century, when Great Britain was the major world power and had subjugated India, homosexuality was considered a sin so horrific that it was not even to be mentioned, let alone discussed. The result was the use of vague, inappropriate terms to describe transgender people such as eunuch, neuter, impotent, asexual, hermaphrodite, etc. While these types of people may have existed to some degree and are generally included within the third sex category, they hardly would have made up its mass. Rather, by behavior and as described in the Kama Shastra, members of the tritiya-prakriti engage almost exclusively in homosexuality.

The avoidance of this fact has lead to an incomplete understanding as to who the "Vedic eunuchs" actually were and what their role continues to be today. Words used to describe transgender citizens in Sanskrit were inaccurately translated in order to skirt homosexual issues and to impose puritan ethics upon Vedic literatures where they did not otherwise exist. There are many examples of this, the most common of which is the Sanskrit word napumsaka or literally "not male", which is used to refer to a man who has no taste for women and thus does not procreate. While this may technically include diseased, old or castrated men, it most commonly refers to the gay or transgender male, depending of course upon the context and behavior of the character being described. Other Sanskrit words for the gay male include sandha or "half man, half woman" and kliba or "effeminate male". It is highly unlikely that so many words would be coined to describe and classify castrated men in a society where castration was not practiced.

Another good example of inaccurate translating can be found in the Sanskrit word referring to lesbians or svairini. Literally meaning "independent woman", this word was commonly mistranslated by early British scholars as "corrupt woman". And when mentioning maithunam pumsi, or sexual union between men, the "scholars" have chosen as their translation "the unnatural crime or offense between men".

Mistranslations such as these have only served to confuse and cover the acknowledgement of transgender roles in Vedic literature, roles that were nonetheless clearly defined and outlined in the Kama Shastra. We hope that future scholars and translators will be more accurate and forthright in their work.


Transgender Roles

The Vedic literatures are comprised of voluminous Sanskrit texts numbering in the thousands, and their priestly authors were renowned for their detailed descriptions of all sciences, both godly and mundane. To obtain a clear understanding of human sexuality, behavior and practice, one is advised to consult the Kama Shastra, which thoroughly covers this field. It is within these texts where the most information is found regarding the third gender including its members, their behaviors and practices, and their roles within society. A brief description will be given here, taken mostly from the fourth and fifth chapters of the second part of the Kama-sutra.

"People of the third sex (tritiya-prakriti) are of two kinds, according to whether their appearance is masculine or feminine." (Kama-Sutra 2.5.1) Members of the third gender are first categorized according to whether their physical characteristics are either male or female. These are known as "napumsaka", or gay males, and "svairini", or lesbians. Each of these categories is then divided into two, depending upon whether their psychological nature is either masculine or feminine. They are then further divided into many sub-categories numbering well over twenty.


Lesbians (Svairini)

Under the heading of tritiya-prakriti, or transgender people, the lesbian is first described in the chapter concerning aggressive behavior in women (purushayita). She is defined as an independent or liberated woman who has refused a husband, earns her own livelihood and lives either alone or in marriage with another woman. Her various types of homosexual behavior and practices are described in great detail within this chapter. Lesbians were more likely to marry and raise children than their male counterparts. They were accommodated within both the transgender community and ordinary society. They were engaged in all means of livelihood including trade, government, entertainment, as courtesans or prostitutes, and within the female chambers as maidservants. Sometimes they would live as renunciants and follow ascetic vows.


Gay Men (Napumsaka)

Gay men are thoroughly described in the chapter concerning oral sex (auparishtaka). Oral sex is not recommended for heterosexuals and is forbidden to brahmanas (priests), but it is acknowledged as the natural practice among those of the third sex who are not otherwise engaged in celibacy.

Gay men with feminine qualities are first described. "Those with a feminine appearance show it by their dress, speech, laughter, behavior, gentleness, lack of courage, silliness, patience, and modesty." (Kama-Sutra 2.5.2.) Gay men with feminine qualities are the most recognizable members of the third gender. For this reason, they have often kept their own societies within all cultures of the world. They generally keep long hair and arrange it in braids or in a womanly fashion. Those who dress up as females are known as transvestites (kliba). They are proficient in the arts, entertainment and most notably dancing. As previously mentioned, their presence at marriage and religious ceremonies is considered to invoke auspiciousness, and thus their blessings were much sought after.

The masculine gay male is next described. "Those who like men but dissimulate the fact maintain a manly appearance and earn their living as barbers or masseurs." (Kama-Sutra 2.5.6) The masculine gay male is not as easily recognizable and would often blend into ordinary society, living either independently or within a feigned marriage to a woman. To achieve satisfaction, he would frequent male prostitutes who worked as masseurs. The technique of these masseurs is described in much detail. Gay men were also employed as house servants to wealthy vaisyas (merchants) and were known for their loyalty. While the feminine gay male would keep smooth skin, apply make-up and sometimes grow breasts, the masculine gay male would keep bodily hairs, grow moustaches or small beards, and maintain a muscular physique. They would often wear gold earrings. Gay men typically engaged in fraternal or casual love, but were sometimes known to marry one another. "There are also third gender citizens, sometimes greatly attached to each other and with complete faith in one another, who get married (parigraha) together." (Kama-Sutra 2.5.36) There were eight different types of marriage according to the Vedic system, and this particular type of homosexual marriage was classified under the gandharva or angelic variety. [The gandharva marriage is defined as a union of love and co-habitation, recognized under common law, but without the need for parental consent or religious ceremony. It also occurs with heterosexual couples.] Sometimes gay men would live as renunciants and were known for their clairvoyant powers. Celibate gay men were often used as pujaris (temple priests).


Neuters and Asexuals

Neutered and asexual people are also typically classified as napumsaka or "not male". This broad definition implies that not all men labeled napumsaka were necessarily of the tritiya-prakriti or third nature, although they were generally classified within that category. Neuters are those rare individuals born with defective sexual organs or those who have had their sexual organs removed. Asexuals are people whose sexual desires are unable to manifest, typically due to physical or psychological illness or trauma. Little is said concerning these people because they were very uncommon. They are mentioned as being born neuter due to past sinful activities. As stated earlier, castration was never a regular practice in India and mutilation of the body is considered by Vedic literatures to be in the mode of darkness. It may have occurred rarely as a primitive form of sex change for gay males. In any case, neuters were typically accommodated within the larger transgender society.


Bisexuals

The Kama-sutra thoroughly describes all types of sexual behavior and practices between heterosexual or first and second gender men and women. This is by far the major portion of the text. Within these chapters, bisexuality is occasionally mentioned. Apparently, in Vedic times, bisexuality was considered more as a variation for heterosexual men and women who were so inclined, and not as a characteristic of the third gender. Bisexual feelings are not particularly common either for heterosexual or homosexual people. Most estimates place it at about ten percent for either group, and these feelings may range from very mild ones that are easy to ignore, on up to stronger ones that require satisfaction. Bisexuality is a curious nature in that it can move back and forth, thus involving the question of choice, which is not an issue with heterosexuals or homosexuals. Heterosexuals often confuse homosexuality with bisexuality, considering gay men and lesbians to have merely made a "choice". They do not realize that the vast majority of homosexuals, or roughly ninety percent, have absolutely no attraction, natural or otherwise, for members of the opposite sex.

In any case, bisexuals were typically accommodated within the heterosexual community. Topics discussed in the Kama Shastra pertaining to them include: men who visit transvestites working as prostitutes, men in the company of lesbians, transvestites within the kings harem, women of the harem satisfying themselves in lieu of the kings absence, and male servants who practice homosexuality in their youth but then later develop an attraction for women.


Sexual Accommodation Versus Puritanism

In the Vedic system, different standards of behavior and sexual conduct are prescribed for different classes of men. For example, the priestly order was held to high standards of conduct, followed by the government officials. Merchants and farmers were given more leniency, and ordinary workers and artisans, who made up more than half of the population, were given more leniency still. This contrasts greatly with most modern systems whereby all citizens are expected to follow the same laws. The advantage of the Vedic system is that it is able to accommodate all varieties of men within society according to their different natures.

It should be understood that the sexual behaviors described in the Kama Shastra are intended for the Vedic citizen pursuing worldly enjoyment, which is generally the aim of most people. It is not intended for those engaged in vows, austerities and other penances that are recommended in the Vedas as a means of attaining moksha or liberation from material bondage. For this class of men only celibacy is prescribed, even within marriage, and this is considered to be the highest standard of conduct for those in the human form of life. However, Vedic culture is all encompassing and thus, while ultimately encouraging renunciation, also realistically accommodates other standards of behavior among the common man.

In modern times, laws are drawn which artificially attempt to force all citizens to adopt standards of conduct that are normally assigned to the priestly class. From the Vedic perspective, however, sexual restraint is only fully effective when it is voluntary. Laws were used to regulate "vice" by establishing designated areas within the city or town and strictly prohibiting it elsewhere, such as in the brahmana or temple districts. Responsible family life and celibacy were publicly encouraged and promoted by the government, but at the same time other forms of sexual behavior were acknowledged and accommodated accordingly. These include a wide variety of activities such as prostitution, polygamy, sexually explicit art, homosexual practices, the keeping of concubines, courtesans, etc. Anyone familiar with Vedic literature will be well aware that these activities were allotted a limited space within its culture. They also continue to flourish even in modern times despite centuries of prohibition. The puritanical concept of total prohibition of vice is a failed, unrealistic system that causes widespread hypocrisy, disrespect for law and injustice for many citizens. People of the third sex have especially suffered under this system.


Adhorata and Scriptural Law

The sage Vatsyayana recognizes that sexual behaviors vary from country to country. People of the southern and western regions tend to be more relaxed in their attitudes concerning sexual variation. Adhorata (anal intercourse), for instance, is particularly practiced by people in the south. While acknowledged as being occasionally practiced by all three genders, it is not recommended for any of them, including members of the third sex, and is of course forbidden to brahmanas. Its practice is said to divert the life-airs downwards and cause disease.

Regarding scriptural law, there are only two verses in the Dharma Shastra that concern intercourse between men, and both pertain only to brahmanas or those belonging to the twice-born class. "A twice-born man who engages in intercourse with a male, or with a female in a cart drawn by oxen, in water, or in the daytime, shall bathe, dressed in his clothes." (Manusmriti 11.175) "Striking a brahmana, smelling obnoxious items such as liquor, cheating, and engaging in intercourse with a male, are declared to cause the loss of caste." (Manusmriti 11.68) This loss of caste was not permanent since it could be atoned for, but it is generally accepted that third gender citizens in the roles of priests were expected to be celibate. Heterosexuals were also expected to be celibate unless specifically engaged in an act for procreation only, after being duly married.

There are also two laws in the Dharma Shastra concerning sexual acts between women. Both involve the violation of virgin brahmana girls awaiting marriage. The first, if committed by the same, requires a fine; the second, if committed by an older woman, requires her head to be shaved.

In the Artha Shastra fines are given as the punishment for homosexual acts committed in public view or within prohibited areas. The fines for males are considerably more than the fines for females. It should also be noted that heterosexual crimes, such as adultery or the pollution of women, were dealt with much more harshly and were thus considered to be more detrimental to society than homosexuality.

Sometimes, in the absence of women, heterosexual men forcibly engage in homosexual rape with other men. This is forbidden activity according to the Vedas. In the Srîmad-Bhâgavatam (3.20) it is narrated that at the beginning of the universe Lord Brahma generated the godless class of men from his buttocks, and that they then forcibly approached him for sex. To appease them, he created twilight in the form of a beautiful woman who completely captivated their lusty desires. This is important to note because it clearly demonstrates that the demons were not members of the third sex. This type of apparent homosexual behavior between first gender males, as seen in prisons for instance where there are no females available, is considered "demoniac and is not for any sane male in the ordinary course of life." It should not be confused with the natural homosexuality described in the Kama Shastra and practiced by people belonging to the third gender.

Scriptural narrations such as the one mentioned above are often quoted out of context in order to condemn homosexuality and transgender people as a whole. But there is a distinction that must be made between the homosexuality of third gender citizens, acting according to their nature and with affection, and the so-called "homosexuality" of frustrated heterosexual men, acting against their own nature and with malice.

Another well-known example supporting this argument can be found in a verse from the Mahâbhârata, in which Lord Siva explains to Goddess Parvati why some men are born with severe physical handicaps such as blindness, chronic illnesses, or as neuters. In his answer to the latter category, Lord Siva describes the fate of heterosexual men who indiscriminately engage in any form of intercourse without restriction. "Those foolish men of evil conduct who engage in all forms of intercourse, taking advantage of improper wombs, and forcing themselves upon other men, are born again without their organs (as neuters)." (Mahâbhàrata 13.145.52) The word viyoni or improper womb refers to the womb of the mother, sister, animal or child.

Otro ejemplo conocido que apoya este argumento puede encontrar en un verso del Mahâbhârata, donde el Señor Siva le explica a las diosa Parvati por qué algunos hombres nacen con graves deficiencias, como la ceguera o enferemedades crónicas o nacen neutros. En su respuesta correspondiente a la última categoría, el Señor Siva describe el destino del varón heterosexual que realiza cualquier forma de relación sexual sin restricción. "Esos estúpidos de conducta malvada que se dedica a todas las formas de relación sexual, tomando ventaja de vientres inapropiados y violando a otros hombres, nacen otra vez sin sus órganos (como neutros)" (Mahâbhàrata 13.145.52). La palabra vi-yoni o 'vagina impropia' se refiere a la de la madre, hermana, animal o niña.


Civilized Behavior and Morality

It is said that a society can be judged by how it treats its minorities and gentler classes. In Vedic society, people were familiar with members of the third gender and could normally recognize its characteristics within their transgender offspring. Upon reaching adolescence, their sons and daughters could openly discuss their nature with their parents, and thus grow healthfully into adulthood. In modern society, however, parents deny that their children are gay and try to force them to be "straight". This causes psychological harm because it is against the child’s nature and creates friction and the fear of disappointing the parents. In school, third gender children are ostracized by others and abused both mentally and physically from first grade through high school. During adolescence, when other youths are dating and learning how to form relationships, third gender youths are isolated, forced to hide their nature from others out of fear and shame. In this way, they cannot even meet their own kind who are also in denial, and thus they contemplate suicide. Gay teens have a suicide rate four times higher than that of their heterosexual peers. Those reaching adulthood are discriminated against in the work force, legally denied housing, scorned when they couple and forbidden the joys of marriage. Upon death, the relatives that shunned them throughout their lives become the legal heirs to their fortune.

The most remarkable thing about this immoral treatment of the third gender today is that it is all being done under the banner of "religion", "morality" and so-called "family values". While being grossly mistreated, third gender citizens are discounted as immoral and undeserving of equal rights solely on the basis of their sexual nature. This type of discrimination and mistreatment is due to ignorance. Not understanding the nature of the third gender, people become suspicious and fearful of their sexual differences. This produces discrimination, which then festers into hatred and even violence.

Uncivilized behavior and mistreatment of other human beings is a clear sign of Kali-yuga or the present age of quarrel and hypocrisy. In former days third gender citizens were used to bestow blessings, but now they are ridiculed, harassed, imprisoned, or even killed. It is a common misconception among some that in Kali-yuga there is an increase in the ratio of homosexual people. Having researched this thoroughly, I have yet to find any Vedic verse supporting this claim. Rather, in the Vayu Purana it is stated, "in the Kali-yuga there will be more women than men." The foremost symptom of the Kali-yuga described is the marked increase in promiscuity amongst people of all genders. In the Bhagavad-gita it is stated that when irreligion is prominent, women become degraded and produce unwanted children, which then destroy the family tradition and become harmful to society at large. While homosexual promiscuity leads to disease, heterosexual promiscuity leads to disease, adultery, unwanted children, contraception, divorce, broken families, abortion and so many social problems. Yet the justification given in defense of the discrimination against third gender people is that they are the ones destroying family values and harming society. From the Vedic perspective, however, transgender people were considered to be aloof from and unimportant to matters concerning procreation and family life. This, along with the observation that their percentage within the overall population has remained relatively the same over thousands of years, would seem to indicate that homosexuals do not pose a threat to the tradition and order of either family life or society at large.


The Third Sex and Vedic Astrology

In Vedic astrology, the nine planets are each assigned to one of the three genders. The Sun, Jupiter and Mars are assigned to pums-prakriti, or the masculine nature. The Moon, Venus and Rahu are assigned to stri-prakriti, or the feminine nature. And Mercury, Saturn and Ketu are assigned to tritiya-prakriti, or the third nature. The three planets of the third nature are typically labeled napumsaka which in this case indicates that they are considered "sexually neutral". This neutrality refers to the fact that their natures are aloof from the business of procreating life as compared to the male and female planets. For instance, Mercury governs children, who have not yet entered puberty and do not become sexually aroused. Saturn governs renunciants and the elderly, who have lost their taste for sexual pleasures. Ketu, on the other hand, specifically concerns the transgender sex. These people have sexual desires, but are not interested in the act of procreation that occurs between men and women.

There are also twenty-seven nakshatras or stars that are important in Vedic astrology. Of these, three are assigned to the third or neutral gender. These are Mrgashira, a deva or high character star, and Mula and Satabhisa, which are both rakshasa or lower character stars.

Ketu or the Moons south node is a subtle planet that cannot be seen with the physical eye except indirectly during the lunar or solar eclipses. It is represented by the tail of the snake or the lower portion of the body. While considered mysterious and inauspicious in the material sense, it is a moksha karaka, or indicator for enlightenment. People influenced by this planet are often psychic and spiritually inclined, and they frequently become monks and renunciants. Ketu is the only planet that is not assigned an earthly direction. Rather, it signifies the direction inward or "heavenward".

The Appearance of Lord Caitanya

Lord Caitanya, considered to be an avatar (incarnation) of God in the Vedic scriptures, appeared in this world in Mayapura, India, in the year 1486 A.D. His mission was to deliver the downtrodden souls of the Kali-yuga age by introducing the chanting of the holy names of God or Hare Krsna. Although appearing in a male form, He displayed the highest sentiments of love for God by accepting the mood of the supreme Goddess, known as Radhika. This divine combination of supreme God and supreme Goddess in the form of Lord Caitanya is considered to be the highest and most confidential teachings of the Vedic literature.

As He appeared in this world, apparently just like an ordinary child, the full moon was rising above the plains of the sacred Ganges River, accompanied by Ketu, in the form of a lunar eclipse. In all places, the holy names of God were resounded again and again.

The following day, according to custom, all the area residents crowded around to see the newborn child. Sages and rishis were aware that a great event had just taken place. Many residents brought precious gifts, and the father, Jagannatha Misra, also gave profusely in charity to the brahmanas and the poor. Not least amongst the guests were the dancers of the transvestite community, known as the "natabaris" or professional gay male dancers, who happily performed before the Lord. These dancers were especially used for religious occasions because at such events it was not considered proper for ordinary men and women to dance together since many brahmanas and renunciants would be present. All of these transvestites were devotees of the Lord, and they prayed to God to bless the child and grant Him a long life, as was the custom. Jagannatha Misra then gave them some precious jewelry and beautiful silks, and they continued with their dancing and singing of Hare Krsna.

This story, and others such as the year spent by Arjuna as a transvestite during exile, are significant because they demonstrate that not only were transgender people present hundreds and even thousands of years ago, but they were present within the Lords transcendental pastimes as well. It shows that from the Vedic perspective, God does not discriminate against gays but on the contrary welcomes their service and devotion, just as He does for all. Another important point is that transgender people were utilized to bestow blessings. Blessings can only be bestowed by people who are auspicious, yet transvestites were well known for their homosexual behavior and often served as prostitutes. The answer to this apparent anomaly is that since they belonged to the third gender, transvestites were considered sexually neutral. In Vedic literature, the strongest bond within this material world is said to be the attraction between man and woman. Combined, they create so many attachments such as home, property, children, grandchildren, etc., all of which serve as distractions from the cultivation of spiritual life. Transgender people were considered to be aloof from this attachment, particularly gay males. They typically did not engage in procreation or family life, and this was a special quality that made their status unique within civilized Vedic culture.


Conclusion

It is important that we appreciate a world filled with variety. There will never be just one race, one gender, one color, one sound, or one anything. The Vedas describe this material world as a reflection of an infinitely beautiful, perfect and eternal spiritual world that has even more variety than we can imagine. We are all a part of this variegatedness, and we all have our own unique role to play. It is therefore pointless to argue over who is higher, lower, more important, less important, etc.

You may ask someone, "Why are you gay?" and that someone may reply, "Why are you a man or a woman?" In the material world, we are all trying to enjoy in so many ways, and that may be one answer. Spiritually, however, we all have our own individual, intrinsic nature, and part of that nature is that we all serve God (Krsna) in the mood of a particular gender.

Thank you for reading this paper. Please do not mistreat anyone, anywhere. We are all brothers! Hare Krishna.

Appendix 1

Summary

The following is a summary of ten important facts presented in this paper according to the Vedic understanding, accompanied by their corresponding myths or common misconceptions that have arisen in recent years.

Myth- There are only two categories of gender: male and female.
Fact- There are three categories of gender according to the Vedas: male, female and transgender.

Myth- Transgender citizens were not allowed to participate in Vedic society.
Fact- The "Vedic eunuch" was actually what is known today as the gay or homosexual male.

Myth- The Vedic eunuch was an asexual, castrated male no longer relevant to modern society.
Fact- The third gender is a natural order that has always and will always be with us, generally at a ratio of five percent of the population.

Myth- Homosexuality is a modern day occurrence that is dangerously on the rise and could overtake us if not checked.
Fact- The third gender or nature is an inherent quality that its members are born with.

Myth- Everyone is born heterosexual, but some of us are corrupted and decide or choose to become gay.
Fact- Gender, in and of itself, plays no role in determining whether a person is either good or bad.

Myth- People of the third gender (homosexuals) are by nature sinful, immoral and corrupted persons.
Fact- Promiscuity in general is a major symptom of Kali-yuga.

Myth- Kali-yuga is marked by an increase in the number of homosexuals.

Myth- All members of Vedic society were forced by law to follow strict brahminical standards of sexual conduct.
Fact- Vedic society accommodated a wide variety of sexual conduct that was regulated by the government.

Myth- Homosexuals pose a serious threat to the order and tradition of family life.
Fact- Transgender people were considered to be aloof from and unimportant to matters concerning procreation and family life.

Myth- Homosexuals should be denied certain rights in order to keep them in check and to protect society from corruption.
Fact- People of the third sex were given all the rights and privileges afforded to other citizens.

Appendix 2

Tape #67-002 San Francisco 04/05/67

SP: (Srila Prabhupada) Jagannatha Misra is father. He was… whatever money and cloth and gold and silver… they were coming… he was also distributing to poor man, some dancers. In India there is a system… what do you call the eunuchs? Those who are neither male or female? What do you call them? What is their name?

HD: (Hayagriva dasa) A combination of both?

SP: Yes.

HD: Male and female? Hermaphrodite.

SP: Eunuchs? What is the eunuch?

HD: Eunuch. A eunuch is a …

SP: Tell me that.

HD: Impotent… someone who’s been castrated.

SP: Oh. That is called a eunuch.

HD: Eunuch.

SP: Rather, by nature, neither man nor woman.

HD: Oh. This is also called asexual. That is to say, no sex.

SP: No sex?

HD: Hermaphrodite means they have the physical characteristics of both man and woman.

SP: Oh? At the same time?

HD: At the same time.

SP: I do not know exactly, but such people, they have their own society, and their means of livelihood is, that whenever there is some good occasion… marriage or childbirth, like that, so, they go there and pray to God that this child may be very long-living. In this way they make some prayer and get some…

HD: These people. Now, I don’t understand…

SP: …Yes. Saci devi is the mother of Lord Caitanya. She is sitting with the child. And everyone is greeting and visiting and everyone is saying, "Oh! Look how nice a child He is!"

HD: And these "asexual" people?

SP: They are dancing.

HD: They are dancing.

SP: Yes. They are chanting Hare Krsna. Like that. So. Hare Krsna dancing is going there and visitors are coming and presenting very nice things. Yes.


His Divine Grace A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder of the Hare Krsna movement in the western world, rarely discussed gay or transgender issues, but mentions it here in a conversation with one of his disciples. He is referring to the transgender dancers and their societies that still exist in India even today. He is obviously trying to find a more appropriate word for the outdated term "eunuch", which he had used in his writings when referring to people of the third gender. He also acknowledges herein that he does not exactly know the nature of these people.

As was proper for a sannyasi, His Divine Grace avoided discussing sexual topics except in regard to their renunciation. He did, however, recognize the Kama Shastra as "the science of sex", but gave it little regard in comparison to other more important scriptures. He rarely discussed homosexuality, and the few times he did were always in context as to how it applied to first gender or heterosexual males.

Despite this, and more importantly, was Srila Prabhupada’s shining example of conduct in dealing with his third gender disciples and friends. He always gave them full support, encouragement and love. He never rejected anyone as a candidate for Krsna consciousness. His warm friendships with openly gay people such as Allen Ginsberg set an example that we would all do well to follow.


Appendix 3

References
The Complete Kama Sutra by Alain Danielou
Jayamangala by Yashodhara
Homosexuality and Hinduism by Arvind Sharma
Bhagavad-gita As It Is by A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Srimad Bhagavatam by A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Krsna: The Supreme Personality of Godhead by A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami
Outline of Lord Caitanya Play, Part One by the Bhaktivedanta Tape Ministry
Mahabharata by Krishna Dharma
Mahabharata by Kamala Subramaniam
Srila Prabhupada-lilamrta by Satsvarupa dasa Goswami
Beneath a Vedic Sky by William R. Levacy



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